Dave Hodges talks Jeffrey Epstein with Investigative Reporter about the latest information
Nick Bryant’s interview with Dave Hodges centered on the continued suppression, manipulation, and distraction surrounding the Jeffrey Epstein scandal. Rather than dwell on speculative lists or unreleased evidence, Bryant argued the most damning and actionable material is already public—and has been for years. The so-called “Epstein list” that so many in media and government claim to be hunting for is a diversion from the fact that Epstein’s Black Book, flight logs, and digital materials already contain the names and data necessary to expose a broad network of elites.
Bryant was blunt about what he believes is happening: a manufactured narrative that pretends there’s still something secret or forthcoming, when in reality the real scandal is the failure to act on what’s already known. His position is that most of the material—names, travel records, connections to underage victims—has been accessible for years. He sees the repeated teases of “explosive new documents” as political theater designed to give the illusion of progress without actual accountability.
One of the central focuses of the interview was former Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi and her much-hyped announcement about new Epstein files. Bondi had promised sweeping revelations in a document dump that would allegedly blow the lid off the cover-up. Instead, what was released amounted to a heavily redacted collection of flight logs, court documents, and names already known to anyone who had followed the case closely. Bryant and Hodges both expressed frustration at the discrepancy between what was promised and what was delivered.
Even more troubling, Bondi later claimed that many of the redactions and omissions were due to national security concerns. Bryant viewed this claim with deep skepticism. He suggested that “national security” has become a catch-all excuse to withhold damaging information that might implicate powerful individuals. He sees this as part of a broader effort to keep the names of politically and financially connected people out of the spotlight under the guise of security or legal protocol.
The interview also touched on internal tensions between Bondi and the FBI. Bondi had reportedly demanded access to additional Epstein materials held by the FBI’s New York field office, and when those were not immediately forthcoming, she went so far as to suggest that FBI agents should be fired. Not long after, the head of that office resigned under unclear circumstances. Bryant noted the convenient timing, pointing to it as yet another sign of internal sabotage or a lack of will to pursue justice.
Bryant then shifted to what he views as the crux of the scandal: that we don’t need more evidence—we need more indictments. The logs, the Black Book, the seized hard drives and surveillance footage from Epstein’s properties, even witness testimony—all point to a network of enablers, clients, and co-conspirators. But beyond Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, there have been no major prosecutions. Bryant expressed dismay that despite civil cases, high-profile names, and years of investigation, no one else has faced real legal consequences.
He also delved into the intelligence angle, noting long-standing speculation that Epstein was connected to intelligence services. Bryant referenced multiple incidents suggesting intelligence ties, such as high-ranking officials meeting with Epstein after his conviction. While Bryant didn’t draw absolute conclusions, he emphasized that such patterns raise serious questions about whether the lack of accountability is rooted in state interests rather than legal obstacles.
In discussing what the public should take away from all this, Bryant warned against false hope. He believes many people have been led to expect some final, conclusive document dump that will solve the mystery. In reality, he argues, the mystery has already been solved—what’s missing is the courage or willingness to prosecute those involved. The media obsession with new names and hidden documents distracts from the fact that law enforcement agencies have long possessed enough material to act.
To Bryant, the Epstein scandal is no longer a story about discovery—it’s a story about deliberate inertia. The real cover-up isn’t hiding new names; it’s the failure to act on the names and evidence that are already public. His call is simple but damning: stop pretending this is about uncovering something new and start demanding action based on what we already know.