Host John B. Wells talks everything Psychological in high profile cases like Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislane Maxwell
Interview Begins at the 1:42:40 Mark
In a wide-ranging and provocative discussion, Dr. John C. Brady joined John B. Wells on Caravan to Midnight to explore the concept of “psychological DNA,” a term he uses to describe the complex patterning of inherited and environmentally reinforced behavior, belief systems, and trauma encoding that shapes individual identity and decision-making. Dr. Brady argues that just as biological DNA carries the blueprint for physical characteristics, psychological DNA transmits intergenerational behavioral tendencies, often unconsciously embedded and activated by specific life events or psychological triggers.
The interview began with Sirhan Sirhan, the convicted assassin of Senator Robert F. Kennedy. Brady emphasized Sirhan’s compromised memory, trance-like behavior during the shooting, and his inability to recall the act, suggesting evidence of dissociation or mind control. He drew on Sirhan’s early life in Jerusalem, marked by violence, religious conflict, and family instability, to argue that Sirhan’s psychological DNA was saturated with trauma and unresolved identity issues. These formed a fertile foundation for suggestibility and dissociative programming. Brady posited that Sirhan may have been used as a “triggered pawn” in a more elaborate political operation—his psychological vulnerabilities exploited by handlers who understood how to fracture identity and implant behavioral commands.
Moving to Jeffrey Epstein, Brady dissected the convicted sex trafficker’s psychological profile not just as a predator, but as a calculated manipulator with a well-developed dissociative mask. He described Epstein’s ability to compartmentalize behavior as a hallmark of high-functioning psychopathy, possibly rooted in early exposure to power, control dynamics, and possibly abuse. Brady claimed Epstein’s psychological DNA showed markers of narcissistic insulation and emotional detachment—traits that allowed him to groom, exploit, and discard with mechanical precision. His network, wealth, and connections functioned not only as logistical assets but as psychological shields that protected and reinforced his delusions of invincibility. Brady suggested Epstein’s persona was not simply a consequence of individual pathology, but of a system that rewards manipulation and punishes conscience.
When the discussion turned to Ghislaine Maxwell, Brady emphasized her deeply embedded patterns of submission to power structures. Raised by Robert Maxwell, a towering media mogul with alleged intelligence ties and a domineering persona, Ghislaine inherited a psychological framework of obedience, ambition, and moral pliability. Brady noted that her psychological DNA reflected a need for proximity to power, possibly stemming from childhood emotional deprivation masked by opulence. In Epstein, she may have found a partner who mirrored her father’s dominance, providing both protection and purpose. Brady did not excuse her behavior but framed it within the dynamics of psychological dependency, loyalty-based identity, and the protective fictions she told herself to normalize exploitation.
Throughout the interview, Brady emphasized that none of these profiles—Sirhan, Epstein, or Maxwell—exist in isolation. Rather, they are expressions of embedded systems, both familial and institutional. He warned that society often reduces individuals to their criminal acts without understanding the layers of programming—cultural, psychological, and in some cases, orchestrated—that shape such outcomes. He reiterated that psychological DNA is not destiny, but when unexamined, it creates repeating loops of dysfunction, especially when amplified by power, secrecy, and trauma.
Wells probed further into the potential for intelligence agencies and covert operatives to manipulate individuals with specific psychological vulnerabilities. Brady did not shy away from this. He referenced MK-Ultra and Project Monarch, cautioning that psychological experimentation did not end with declassified documents. According to Brady, individuals like Sirhan Sirhan may have been selected precisely because of their dissociative potential. He suggested that modern psychological warfare no longer requires traditional weapons—only people whose psychological DNA is already fractured by trauma, waiting to be turned.
In closing, Brady called for a deeper public understanding of how manipulation works—not just politically, but psychologically. He challenged listeners to reflect on their own psychological inheritance, the stories they’ve been told, and the triggers that guide their choices. Understanding psychological DNA, he argued, is the first step in breaking free from the invisible architecture of control. Wells agreed, noting that awareness is not just power, but resistance. The discussion concluded with a sobering reflection on the societal structures that create monsters—and the need to dismantle them with eyes wide open.
