Issue of Immigration and Deportation of Kilmar Abrego Garcia
In a no-holds-barred interview with nationally syndicated talk show host Steve Gruber, former DEA agent and border security expert Stacy Zinn pulled back the curtain on one of the most chilling immigration stories to date: the arrest of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, a Colombian national with deep ties to violent organized crime, apprehended inside the United States after illegally entering the country.
Zinn, who spent years on the front lines of narcotics enforcement and border intelligence, explained that Abrego Garcia wasn’t just another illegal entrant—he was a high-level operative linked to transnational criminal networks. “This isn’t about someone crossing the border to pick tomatoes,” Zinn told Gruber. “This is someone who poses a direct threat to our national security, and he got in under the radar.”
Throughout the interview, Zinn outlined how Abrego Garcia managed to enter the country despite existing vetting procedures, and why his case is a symbol of the systemic breakdown at the southern border. She stressed that this isn’t an isolated incident—it’s part of a wider pattern involving criminals, gang members, and cartel-affiliated individuals who are exploiting loopholes in the asylum and parole systems.
Zinn shared specific details from law enforcement briefings, noting that Abrego Garcia had previously been detained in Panama for ties to organized crime but was released and allowed to continue northward. By the time he was apprehended in the U.S., he had already blended into a migrant population being resettled in major cities.
“Policies that sound compassionate on paper are being used by dangerous people as cover,” Zinn said. “Our adversaries know how to manipulate a broken system—and Kilmar Abrego Garcia is a perfect example.”
Steve Gruber, who has long focused on issues of national sovereignty and immigration integrity, pressed Zinn on how the Biden administration’s policies may be contributing to the rise in high-risk entrants. Zinn was blunt: “We’ve handed operational control of our border to the cartels. They decide who crosses and when—and we’re left picking up the pieces after the fact.”
The interview didn’t stop at the border. Zinn highlighted the downstream impact of unvetted migration on American cities, law enforcement, and communities. She pointed to sanctuary policies, overwhelmed immigration courts, and inadequate intelligence sharing between federal and local agencies as critical weak points.
“Not only are we letting in people we shouldn’t—we’re not tracking them once they’re here,” she warned. “This isn’t just a border issue anymore. It’s a national security crisis that’s growing by the day.”
Zinn also addressed the political paralysis in Washington, calling out both parties for failing to pass real reform or take decisive action. “This should be a bipartisan issue,” she said. “When you have cartel operatives slipping into our cities, this isn’t about left versus right. It’s about right versus wrong.”
One of the most sobering moments of the interview came when Zinn connected the dots between border insecurity and the potential for future terrorist attacks. “People always say, ‘What’s the worst that could happen?’ Well, we already know—we saw it on 9/11. And we are making the same mistakes all over again.”
She urged listeners not to look away from stories like Abrego Garcia’s, calling them “canaries in the coal mine.” These are warnings, she said, that must be taken seriously before tragedy strikes.
Gruber closed the interview by praising Zinn for her clarity and courage, calling her “one of the most important voices on border security today.” He encouraged listeners to stay informed and demand accountability from lawmakers who are either willfully blind or politically compromised.
As Zinn put it in her closing words: “If we don’t secure the border, we don’t have a country. It’s that simple.”
